I heard the same thing from my sister's neighbor's hairdresser's UPS man's best friend's son's teacher's husband who drives by the DWR regularly (basically an inside source too). :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: just kidding, this same stupid rumor is tossed around several times a year; if it happened, shame shame, but it seems to be all rumors that get tossed around fairly regularly, how would they even catch such a person even if it did happen?

 

Funny you brought this up because last weekend i was hunting around the 'Berry and sat and watched a helicopter with two guys in it fly up and down each finger and canyon about 20-40 feet above the trees at a very slow speed, almost a hover. It was a blue and yellow smaller helicopter. Now that was enought to piss me off in the first place as it's about an hour and a half hike in from any surrounding road to where i was at, and then to have this whirly bird screw my morning hunt over was a little irritating. Anyone else seen this same helicopter? Hunters? F&G? My guess would be someone with a LE Elk Tag trying to find em a goodin. I could see the guys in the ****pit plain as day as they flew close enough to throw rocks at them and i did not see any F&G uniformed officers. If it was hunters scouting or hunting none the less is this legal? Scouting during the hunting season in that manner ruins it for those already in field hunting.

 

Just a couple of thoughts on this. First, scouting an area with a chopper is counter productive. If you get low enough to actually land it, the game will take off before you can.

But more importantly - as hunters, we see everything from a hunting perspective. The fact of the matter is, most airspace is what is called class E or Class G - meaning unregulated (depends on altitude above the ground). (Airspace over designated wilderness an national parks is a different matter.) Aircraft can pretty much do what they want in these areas. They can train. They can be checking out a fire, or livestock, or you name it. They can be on a search and rescue operation, or they can do scenic flying, or even thrill flying. And that is independent of all hunting seasons.

Hunters are regulated, in how soon you can hunt after flying an area. Even if you are on the ground with an "eye in the sky", it isn't going to help any more/less than a spotter on the ground. Just because a helicopter or airplane is in the sky near where we are hunting, does not mean it doesn't have a right to be there, or isn't doing other things. Its crazy what general aviation folks will do to get their rocks off - like the group that Rulon Gardiner is part of that crashed their plane in Lake Powell a couple years back because they were skimming the water with their landing gear. They weren't trying to tick off the fishermen - they were out after the thrill of it all. And nearly died because of it. All I'm saying is we can't be so quick to jump to anyone in an aircraft are there to cheat the hunt, or ruin our hunt. Truth is, most are oblivious a hunt is even happening.

 

Funny you brought this up because last weekend i was hunting around the 'Berry and sat and watched a helicopter with two guys in it fly up and down each finger and canyon about 20-40 feet above the trees at a very slow speed, almost a hover. It was a blue and yellow smaller helicopter. Now that was enought to **** me off in the first place as it's about an hour and a half hike in from any surrounding road to where i was at, and then to have this whirly bird screw my morning hunt over was a little irritating. Anyone else seen this same helicopter? Hunters? F&G? My guess would be someone with a LE Elk Tag trying to find em a goodin. I could see the guys in the ****pit plain as day as they flew close enough to throw rocks at them and i did not see any F&G uniformed officers. If it was hunters scouting or hunting none the less is this legal? Scouting during the hunting season in that manner ruins it for those already in field hunting.

That would peave anyone off, I must ask; did the arrow stick or clean through?

 

I understand that not everyone is hunting or scouting but the way they were doing what they were doing looked as if they were definetely lookin for something. Who knows? But the reason i guess i'm so suspicious is it has happened in this area before.

That would peave anyone off, I must ask; did the arrow stick or clean through?

:lol: I can't say that didn't cross my mind :wink:

 

It was me, I was trying to chase the monsters on the Berry to Dutton. If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying!

 

ahh hell pro...land the bird, lasso a bull and ride him down to the dutton _(O)_


hey, you shooting the goldtips or did you decide to go with the XX75's??

 

ahh hell pro...land the bird, lasso a bull and ride him down to the dutton _(O)_

hey, you shooting the goldtips or did you decide to go with the XX75's??

I thought about riding one down there, but I'm afraid my back would give out.

I went back to the trusty XX78 2317's. They seem to fly better than my Goldtips with my muzzy 125 3-blades. If I could have got the Epek broadheads I would have stuck with the carbons.

I love reading/hearing all the rumors out there, good comedy. Better than Area 51 stories.

 

The source that told me about this works for the division of wildlife and it isn't just a rumor. He didn't know all the details himself but he is a volunteer for the poacher hotline so he is a credible source. He said that someone wrote down the helicopter license number and also witnessed someone getting out of the helicopter and jumping on a 4 wheeler to go after someone. I know it isn't illegal to fly a helicopter in the mountains but people that use them to hunt shouldn't call themselves hunters. If it affects hunters on public lands like honkerfool and anybody else to that regard it shouldn't be allowed. When hunting on public lands the playing field should be equal and everyone should have to play by the same rules. I've had helicopters buzz me while hunting before and it indeed messed my hunting up for that day. Using a helicopter is a huge advantage no matter how you put it.

 

Helicopters can be an asset I agree, but I don't know of anyone using them for hunting purposes. :? It just cracks me up all the rumors that come from 'good sources' that just seem to never pan out. I talked with a couple of guides on the Monroe yesterday, the stories they tell of all the hysteria is comical. Some folks should be in Hollywood writing action movies with their vivid imaginations.

 

There was a chute plane flying around my house last week. Seen it firsthand!

 

Alright, I'll come clean. We spotted the two spikes we killed last weekend from said chopper. We even shot one before the heli even hit the ground. What a rush.

 

Your right it's probably just another rumor. I guess it just got me going because I have a LE archery elk tag down there right now. I thought that if it were true then I'd probably get some answers from the forum. Has this rumor already been floating around? Well I guess in the end we all have to live with ourselves so if it makes you happy and its legal then have at it.. :wink:

 

Congrats on having a great tag, I have one for just south on the Dutton.

Here is a suggestion, if you see such activity, PLEASE video it, or at least take a couple of pictures of it. That way it will stop, and you would be the biggest hero ever in the Utah hunting circle! I lost count weeks ago on the rumors flying around about that area. I had no idea there were that many old women that cared so much about hunting. Rumors with a shred of PROOF are dangerous and childish. When will people GROW UP and produce PROOF/EVIDENCE before making the accusations?

Good luck on your hunt, I hope you kill spidey! That would be awesome! 8)

 

What people may not know right now is there is a TON of helicopters running all over Sevier County right now with the oil rigs!!! They are doing work on the Monroe and the Pahvant. I have seen them every weekend. They are hauling stuff into new sites and are flying VERY low. If you just look, you will see the signs that they have put out warning of low flying aircraft all over. They are going into some crazy areas. I have seen them on 4 wheelers going in to some of those areas.

Imagine that.............an explanation of some of the RUMORS!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Now I am not saying that every one is with the drill rigs, but there is a lot of them and I am getting sick of all the stupid rumors going on. I hear a new one EVERY DAY it seems.

Kind of funny stuff!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

I could make one call and find out for a fact if it's true or not... But I don't give a sh*t. :?

 

Pay attention Tex, it has already been established that it isn't true. And, you do give a "sh*t", admit it! If bow hunters are using helicopters to take down game, you SHOULD!

 

Pay attention Tex, it has already been established that it isn't true. And, you do give a "sh*t", admit it! If bow hunters are using helicopters to take down game, you SHOULD!

:mrgreen:

 

Helicopters can be an asset I agree, but I don't know of anyone using them for hunting purposes. :?

Ya ever seen a coyote shot from a plane or helicopter?

 

Helicopters can be an asset I agree, but I don't know of anyone using them for hunting purposes. :?

Ya ever seen a coyote shot from a plane or helicopter?

Sorry, I figured everyone was paying attention and understood we are talking about hunting ELK. My bad. :roll:

 

Yeah that makes sense about the drilling because I ran into that same sh*** over by Scofield the last couple years. It still makes me mad either way because there's nothing more annoying to me when out hunting then these dam helicopters flying over and landing in the bottoms of some of these canyons. I stopped hunting over by Scofield for that reason. When does this end or does it? I sure hope that we don't have to deal with this more and more in the future but we probably will so I should just get over it. I don't know about you guys but a big part of hunting for me is just getting away from all the noise and disturbances of our fast past world. I like to think about how it was a hundred years ago before we fu** it all up. This is kind of off the point but those people that can't pick up there own garbage should be beaten. Just because these drilling teams can come in and rape our public lands doesn't mean we can't do our part to keep our wildernesses clean and even pick up after some other AHOLE that doesn't have a clue. We need to respect our lands and the wildlife that lives on them. Good luck to you all as well and put down a monster this year. 8)

 

I have used both a plane and a helicopter to hunt..... well... locate elk. A plane one time, flew over and circled the Boulders a few times 3 days before the opener. Now I use a helicopter every chance I get, usually for work but with other options also :wink: .

Now Pro, being a tower guy, haven't you had to fly to a mountain top a time or two and talked the pilot into flying over some good looking elk country??? If not you should try it, it is awsome. I do this every chance I get, talk the pilot into taking a long route home that might take us over some good country, I have found a few herds that way. 8) :lol:

 

Wow....I can't believe that your proud of the fact that your to lazy to hunt and find an animal on your own dime. You know what you should also try hunting high fence as well because then you wont have to work at all. You call yourself a hunter I call you a lazy hack. Sorry but if your going to post crap like that then go start your own post with your fly boy **** and stay off this post because you make me sick and I guarantee that a lot will agree. :twisted:

 

Now Pro, being a tower guy, haven't you had to fly to a mountain top a time or two and talked the pilot into flying over some good looking elk country??? If not you should try it, it is awsome. I do this every chance I get, talk the pilot into taking a long route home that might take us over some good country, I have found a few herds that way. 8) :lol:

I work in Tooele County, not exactly elk paradise out in the desert. The only time I fly in a helicopter over elk country was when I was life flighted of Dutton 3 years ago, cost $17,000 and I don't remember a second of it. :evil:

TheMtnGuide, you need to mellow out!

 

Why do I need to mellow out? Did I hurt someone’s fragile ego? I just think it's disturbing that people admit tracking animals with plans and helicopters. I started this post and if someone that comes in and writes about how he uses helicopters and plans to track game is just asking for it. Don't you agree? If he’s just blowing smoke up my butt to get a rise then that’s funny **** but don’t tell me to mellow out just get over it. Hope your better after your flight off Dutton. That must have been a crazy experience. :mrgreen: