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06-05-2020 03:30 PM
Fowlmouth
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Originally Posted by rtockstein View Post
I see there's no Remington recommends on here. Has Remington's quality really gone down the toilet that much in the last 15 year
FYI: I'm not a bird hunter, so Remington's shotguns may have always been functionally crap for bird hunting, but I wouldn't know it.
Yep, quality is not there any longer. Keep your shotguns from the 60's and 70's, they are the good one's.
06-05-2020 01:56 PM
rtockstein I see there's no Remington recommends on here. Has Remington's quality really gone down the toilet that much in the last 15 years?

I grew up using an 1100 semi-auto 20 gauge bird gun to hunt deer with. Then when I got my own, it was an 1100 12 gauge that I put a rifled barrel on. Both guns were built in the 70s or 80s and still are immaculate and beautiful pieces of equipment. I still have my 12 gauge 1100 and wish I could afford the NR tags to use it back home again.

FYI: I'm not a bird hunter, so Remington's shotguns may have always been functionally crap for bird hunting, but I wouldn't know it.
05-01-2020 09:42 PM
wyogoob I do not recommend the Remington Versa Max. Mine shoots low and behind the ducks....uh...and it shoots way behind those doves.
05-01-2020 08:29 PM
Bax* I sure love my Benelli. Ive taken friends out shooting with o/u shotguns, pumps, and autos. They always wanna shoot the Benelli SBE II over anything else.

Enjoy that Montefeltro!
05-01-2020 09:50 AM
Kwalk3
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Originally Posted by Airborne View Post
Keep shooting your 870 but go have it coated by black ice in Spanish Fork, it will look new again. Run ya about $200.

Couple other points, there are a lot of assumptions that shotguns shoot to their point of aim...nope, only about half do, American rifleman magazine does best shotgun analysis and I have been getting that magazine for 20 years and it proves it with all the shotguns they test.

Have you patterned your 870? Have you done any shooting to fit tests? I donít mean shoot a cardboard box but actual testing? Look man, everybody likes new guns but nobody tests and evaluates shotguns like they should. I do and what you currently have is good but the rust issue with 870ís is a problem that can be fixed for a quarter of the cost of another gun. You need to truly evaluate your 870 before you go spending money. I can teach ya if you want, shoot me a pm. I just fixed up an old 870, I have a barrel bender and everything. Or go roll the dice and buy a new shotgun, it may fit ya 50/50 chance. Good luck
The sad truth is I really haven't ever put any serious effort into figuring out the details in fit and patterning, etc. Strange that I spend so much time tinkering with arrows, fletchings, bow tuning, to make sure my archery equipment is performing exactly as I need it to, but when it comes to the shotgun, I never give any of the details a second thought. That's largely why I put the question out here.

I know the 870 is serviceable and I'm not scrapping it, but after 22 years, I really do want a new shotgun. Semi-auto preferred. I may go get the 870 coated and give that to my boy to hunt with and not be worried about what he might put it through.

I'm gonna try and shoot the Benelli Montefeltro with my buddy in the next few weeks. Also going to shoot the SX4 and the Browning Maxus, as those are all guns I can easily get my hands on in my circle of friends.

Lots to consider, I'll shoot you a PM about the shooting to fit tests. Really appreciate the input, and whether I keep shooting the 870 or a new gun, I do need to understand better what I'm looking for with the shotgun.
05-01-2020 12:07 AM
Airborne I’ve tested three SX3’s, all three shot 1.5 feet low at 40 yards. Not a fan of those. I’ve tested two SA08’s, they shot within 4” of point of aim, pretty decent. They get dirty quick but seem like decent gas guns, my daughter has one.

The best most consistent brands (I have tested over a dozen of them ea) that shoot to Point of aim are benelli montifeltro/legacy and Browning citori’s for what it’s worth
04-30-2020 11:58 PM
Airborne Keep shooting your 870 but go have it coated by black ice in Spanish Fork, it will look new again. Run ya about $200.

Couple other points, there are a lot of assumptions that shotguns shoot to their point of aim...nope, only about half do, American rifleman magazine does best shotgun analysis and I have been getting that magazine for 20 years and it proves it with all the shotguns they test.

Have you patterned your 870? Have you done any shooting to fit tests? I don’t mean shoot a cardboard box but actual testing? Look man, everybody likes new guns but nobody tests and evaluates shotguns like they should. I do and what you currently have is good but the rust issue with 870’s is a problem that can be fixed for a quarter of the cost of another gun. You need to truly evaluate your 870 before you go spending money. I can teach ya if you want, shoot me a pm. I just fixed up an old 870, I have a barrel bender and everything. Or go roll the dice and buy a new shotgun, it may fit ya 50/50 chance. Good luck
04-30-2020 12:03 PM
Kwalk3
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Originally Posted by SX3 View Post
Thanks to his wonderful sweet wife my son picked up this beauty last night.
That might be the best looking "camo" gun I've seen. Love the Flat Dark Earth coloration. I may have to change my mind from getting a solid black gun.....
04-30-2020 11:49 AM
SX3 Thanks to his wonderful sweet wife my son picked up this beauty last night.
04-29-2020 06:55 PM
Califbowmen For the money and shoots well, I prefer the Stoeger M3000/3500 for a great 12ga and the M3020, 20ga!! I shoot upland and waterfowl !!
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