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Old 11-08-2020, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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President-elect Biden has indicated he will rejoin the Paris Climate Accord, the Iran Nuclear deal, support NATO and our allies, not suck up to our adversaires, support the WHO, etc. In short, he'll be focusing on undoing the damage done by the Dumpster. Think he'll get around to restoring Bears Ears to its original boundaries? Sure hope so, though he has a lot on his plate.
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I was wondering how long it would take for something like this to come up. Apparently not long! Maybe he should just do away with the designation entirely and save some more tax money.
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Old 11-08-2020, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The law on creating national monuments is clear, it states it must be:

“the smallest area compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be protected.”

Obama over reached, what he allocated was too big. There were over 100,000 acres of private lands within the boundry he created. Trump was right to reduce the overall size.

There is no legal basis for Biden to increase the current boundary.


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The law on creating national monuments is clear, it states it must be:

“the smallest area compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be protected.”

Obama over reached, what he allocated was too big. There were over 100,000 acres of private lands within the boundry he created. Trump was right to reduce the overall size.

There is no legal basis for Biden to increase the current boundary.


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Except the Antiquities Act, of course. It has been challenged many times in court and upheld every time. There was no legal basis, either in the language of the Act or in case law, for reducing the boundary.
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The problem with the Antiquities Act is that those who are going to take the artifacts are going to take them even if it is a National Park.

It's like saying that a bank robber can not rob a bank because there is a law against it.
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The problem with the Antiquities Act is that those who are going to take the artifacts are going to take them even if it is a National Park.

It's like saying that a bank robber can not rob a bank because there is a law against it.
That's a repetition of the tired old argument, as in, people often exceed speed limits, does that mean we shouldn't have them?
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That's a repetition of the tired old argument, as in, people often exceed speed limits, does that mean we shouldn't have them?
A speeding ticket isn't worth thousands of dollars on the black market.

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Biden will be too busy switching us over to Socialism for a while.
Then he will take care of things like Bears Ears.
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A speeding ticket isn't worth thousands of dollars on the black market.

Morning sunshine!
So, is it your position that removing the protections of public lands afforded by the Antiquities Act would be a good thing? There are laws against looting artifacts already, the Act doesn't attempt to address that issue. People have been prosecuted and penalized, but there will always be those who will violate laws for thirty pieces of silver.
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We move from one wedge issue to the next with such rapidity.

It is interesting seeing a thread in which you ignore/block the OP. It's like reading a book with missing chapters but the plot is unaffected and still predictable.
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