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Old 02-22-2021, 01:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I love it!! The best way to protect and eliminate accidental shootings, etc. is through giving knowledge of the firearm and teaching SAFETY. Take away the "mystery" I guess. I'm sure it will require a parents approval of for the student to take the elective class. Some may not want there kid to take it, some will agree.

I see it becoming controversial though. Almost similar to the sex education classes. Whatever happens, its the parents responsibility IMO that should teach their own kids about firearms and safety. The same with sex education. Society shouldn't place that responsibility to the teachers.
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I love it!! The best way to protect and eliminate accidental shootings, etc. is through giving knowledge of the firearm and teaching SAFETY. Take away the "mystery" I guess. I'm sure it will require a parents approval of for the student to take the elective class. Some may not want there kid to take it, some will agree.

I see it becoming controversial though. Almost similar to the sex education classes. Whatever happens, its the parents responsibility IMO that should teach their own kids about firearms and safety. The same with sex education. Society shouldn't place that responsibility to the teachers.
I agree that it is the parents responsibility, however, like many things they don't do it.

Another is some parents themselves have no experience and could benefit from training and it would be a good opportunity for them to have their children taught.

Teen pregnancy problems, they need education.
Drug problems, they need education.
Gun issues, shut up and don't talk about it.

Doesn't make sense to me.
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Teen pregnancy problems, they need education.
Drug problems, they need education.
Gun issues, shut up and don't talk about it.

Doesn't make sense to me.
There are two sides to this coin. Any time the topics you brought up above come up in discussion for school curriculum, there is huge opposition because we in Utah say that should be taught in the home and not school.

Heck, there is a bill right now talking about adding curriculum to discuss what is consent for sexual activity that most Utahns are fighting against. Not speaking to anyone here specifically, but a general statement he that it rings extremely hollow to me if anyone says discussing guns in school to increase safety is good, but teaching both girls and boys what it means to consent to reduce sexual assault is bad.

You canít have your cake and it it too and expect to be taken seriously. I guess thatís why I rarely take politicians seriously anymore.
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There are two sides to this coin. Any time the topics you brought up above come up in discussion for school curriculum, there is huge opposition because we in Utah say that should be taught in the home and not school.

Heck, there is a bill right now talking about adding curriculum to discuss what is consent for sexual activity that most Utahns are fighting against. Not speaking to anyone here specifically, but a general statement he that it rings extremely hollow to me if anyone says discussing guns in school to increase safety is good, but teaching both girls and boys what it means to consent to reduce sexual assault is bad.

You canít have your cake and it it too and expect to be taken seriously. I guess thatís why I rarely take politicians seriously anymore.
Couldn't have said it better myself and you didn't leave much to add.

I hope those who are "anti" or just simply not interested in firearms will still realize the value of education. Like it or not, we live in a pro-gun state and kids are likely to have exposure at one point or another. Best they know what they're doing when that moment comes. I don't want my kids out there sleeping around and doing drugs or any such thing, but you can be darn sure I will do everything in my power to educate them so they can make the right choices on their own based on knowledge and exposure. Same goes for firearms - a parent being anti-gun doesn't mean their child will never have the opportunity to handle a gun. Well said, Vanilla.
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