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fiber optics 1 5.56%
scope 17 94.44%
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering which people use most on their muzzleloader, fiber optics or a scope?

Edit: thinking of just doing fiber optics on my next muzzleloader

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Old 07-21-2020, 11:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1x scope
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Old 07-21-2020, 11:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It all depends. I now have a muzzle loader that packs a scope. My failing eyesight is the biggest reason. All the fiber optics do is to use a florescent front sight and perhaps a couple of florescent dots on the rear to make it easier to see.

On my ML that I use in Colorado I went to a SeeAll delta sight on the rear. It doesn't use the front sight at all and has a black ^ with a black line across the top. You just place the target on top of the black line and ^ and pull the trigger. It is legal in all states where you have to use open or iron sights. It is funny that they have the same sight with a post that is not legal in Colorado.

So for me where it is legal I would use a scope in a heart beat. If I would of even had a 1x scope on my ML a few years ago on a ML hunt in the Book Cliffs I would of had a 200"+buck coming home with me. But I was using my ML that just had a peep sight and I was not comfortable in taking a 200 yard shot. With the ML that I now have with the scope that buck would be hanging on my wall.
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Old 07-21-2020, 12:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Scope for me and I am not ashamed of it either.
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I haven't found a front fiber fine enough to feel comfortable with a shot over 100 yards. A peep with a globe sight or fine blade on front is much better if you are hunting a state that doesn't allow optics.

But if I can have any sort of fine cross hair and magnification with a scope while hunting, I'm going to use that advantage all day.
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I’ve got a 6.5-24x50 on mine. No shame here.
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Old 07-21-2020, 02:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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well, you guys got me convinced, sticking with a scope! looking forward to figuring out which load the new smoke pole likes
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Old 07-21-2020, 03:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The one fiber optics vote, I guess is me. Running a fiber optic front sight, through a rear peep sight aperture with a brass ring instead of a fiber optic.

For open sights, I find this both good and bad.

Good in that so long as I can remember my proper aim point, it works pretty well. Can put a 3 shot grouping into a paper plate at 100 yards with open sights.

Bad in that if i don't remember my proper aim point, I'm hitting way off.

That proper aim point? Top of the red dot. The BIGGEST issue I have with a front fiber optic, is that the rest of the front sight post fades into nothing, and all I see is the dot. My natural inclination is to put the dot where I want the bullet to go. Where as the top of the dot, is actually the top of the front sight post. It sounds silly, but this is REALLY hard to push past as your eye naturally centers with a rear peep sight.

I'm hearkening back to basic marksmanship with an M16 before ACOG's were a thing , for point of reference,. Now If i zero the sights to take account of my natural inclination to put the dot where I want to bullet to go, then I'm riding the rear sight aperture all the way up and maxing the elevation on it, which makes a 100 yard zero, sketchy at best as I run out of ramp to slide the rear sight on.

Still looking for a fixed 4 power optic that isn't designed for an AR15, isn't a POS, and one that I can afford. I just can't make myself put a 3-9 scope on something that will be lobbing the lead in on a parachute at 200 yards.
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