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View Poll Results: fiber optics or scope
fiber optics 1 5.56%
scope 17 94.44%
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The one fiber optics vote, I guess is me. Running a fiber optic front sight, through a rear peep sight aperture with a brass ring instead of a fiber optic.

For open sights, I find this both good and bad.

Good in that so long as I can remember my proper aim point, it works pretty well. Can put a 3 shot grouping into a paper plate at 100 yards with open sights.

Bad in that if i don't remember my proper aim point, I'm hitting way off.

That proper aim point? Top of the red dot. The BIGGEST issue I have with a front fiber optic, is that the rest of the front sight post fades into nothing, and all I see is the dot. My natural inclination is to put the dot where I want the bullet to go. Where as the top of the dot, is actually the top of the front sight post. It sounds silly, but this is REALLY hard to push past as your eye naturally centers with a rear peep sight.

I'm hearkening back to basic marksmanship with an M16 before ACOG's were a thing , for point of reference,. Now If i zero the sights to take account of my natural inclination to put the dot where I want to bullet to go, then I'm riding the rear sight aperture all the way up and maxing the elevation on it, which makes a 100 yard zero, sketchy at best as I run out of ramp to slide the rear sight on.

Still looking for a fixed 4 power optic that isn't designed for an AR15, isn't a POS, and one that I can afford. I just can't make myself put a 3-9 scope on something that will be lobbing the lead in on a parachute at 200 yards.
Can't you just leave your 3x9 on 4x?
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Can't you just leave your 3x9 on 4x?

I'm anal about weight and light transmission.
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Old 07-22-2020, 11:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Scope for me and I am not ashamed about it either.
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Old 07-22-2020, 08:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Iíve got a 6.5-24x50 on mine. No shame here.
??? are you sighted in at 300 with drops out to 700?
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Iíve got a 6.5-24x50 on mine. No shame here.
HE!! YA!!! Same here...Ö.. That way I can reach out to 500 yards. NA, just kidding. I use a 3-9 and the reason I use a scope is because of ageing eye's. Hard to focus front and rear sights to accurately place a shot.


When I had younger eyes, I had an elevated rear sight on one ML and could hit small green propane bottles all day long out to 300 yards. Killed a 4x4 buck one year at 310yds, and a spike bull at 265 the same year. They both humped up when hit and tipped over within 10' of where they were standing.


I cant use that ramp anymore so if someone wants it...Ö.. Id let it go for the right price.
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Old 07-23-2020, 08:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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If the state you are hunting allows it then scope all the way! Not even a question--it's such an advantage. I'm hunting Nevada this year so open sights for me but I did all of my load development with my scope then took it off for real world practice.

I kinda wish Utah would drop the scope thing but once the cat is out of the bag it's hard to put it back in. High end Muzzle loaders are honestly amazing and capable of 600+ yard shots with the best ones. Heck, even standard cheapy CVA's with a scope are deadly to 300 yards. Crazy how accurate they are.
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??? are you sighted in at 300 with drops out to 700?
Zero at 100. I can hit 18Ē rocks every shot off a bench at 650. Realistically, Iíd shoot a deer at 450 and an elk at 300. But itís nice to have the option for further shots if needed.
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??? are you sighted in at 300 with drops out to 700?
Zero at 100. I can hit 18” rocks every shot off a bench at 650. Realistically, I’d shoot a deer at 450 and an elk at 300. But it’s nice to have the option for further shots if needed.
What muzzleloader are you shooting and what’s the load you’re running?
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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What muzzleloader are you shooting and whatís the load youíre running?
Any ML can do it. The energy at that range would be minimal to drop an animal. The "Super Loader" (what I call the Remington) pushing a 250gr. bullet backed with 200gr. of powder would have more energy than a standard ML with 150gr. of powder.
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Shooting a TC Omega. Been shooting 250 grain TC Shockwaves with two 50 grain 777 pellets. Looking into switching to one of the 295 grain Barnes bullets as I'm hopefully getting close to a LE elk tag. Never had a problem with these bullets in mulies, also not shot at one over 100 yards before.


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