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Old 06-02-2014, 10:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree, the first pile looks like Grouse. As for the second splattered mess, it looks like someone had one bite too much of a California burrito from Rancheritos.... oh, and they forgot to pack toilet paper.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Remember that area, if you hunt grouse late season.

Scats and tracks are always fun.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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http://naturallycuriouswithmaryholla....com/tag/scat/

if this were out in the more open area, you have various burrowing critters that leave similar scat in bigger piles as they dig tunnels in the snow, they have eating areas and pooping areas, at melt out they are all over and you can see the tunnel remnants.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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if this were out in the more open area, you have various burrowing critters that leave similar scat in bigger piles as they dig tunnels in the snow, they have eating areas and pooping areas, at melt out they are all over and you can see the tunnel remnants.
Marmot are similar but much bigger. I don't know of any other rodents that have droppings like that. The ruffed grouse droppings in your picture are colored the way they are because of diet. Late winter dusky grouse dropping, tend to be dark and uniform. In fact I could be all wrong about the aspen thing, if they are dark because of something like mahogany. Late winter, early spring dusky grouse will really focus on aspen buds. Their droppings end up dark and uniform because of the outer "shell" of the bud. You can pick the scats apart and see this. Other things will give them that dark uniform color as well.

You can find these in melt out in the open as well. Some grouse have a favorite spot in the open that tends to get used before roosting. Grouse also burrow in the snow in winter to keep warm.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:35 PM   #15 (permalink)
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vole scat in snow.
http://fletcherwildlifegarden.wordpr...-melting-snow/
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[QUOTE=Kingfisher;824050]vole scat in snow.
http://fletcherwildlifegarden.wordpr...-melting-snow/[/QUOTE

Yep, rounded almost pointy ends, straighter configuration, with the typical "grained" structure of rodent poop. The fibrous material that it is composed of will lay along the length of the scat, being interwoven. This is partly because of the fibers in the roots that voles eat.

The grouse droppings have more blunted ends, and structurally look more like they are "stacked" in their composition. You can take them apart easier because of their segmented nature. This is partly because of the way birds process food, by grinding it in their gullet. And grouse droppings will usually have that curve to them, because of this structure, and the way in which they excreted.

I think we should send him back out for samples I've been sent back out a few times.
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vole scat in snow.
http://fletcherwildlifegarden.wordpr...-melting-snow/[/QUOTE

Yep, rounded almost pointy ends, straighter configuration, with the typical "grained" structure of rodent poop. The fibrous material that it is composed of will lay along the length of the scat, being interwoven. This is partly because of the fibers in the roots that voles eat.

The grouse droppings have more blunted ends, and structurally look more like they are "stacked" in their composition. You can take them apart easier because of their segmented nature. This is partly because of the way birds process food, by grinding it in their gullet. And grouse droppings will usually have that curve to them, because of this structure, and the way in which they excreted.

I think we should send him back out for samples I've been sent back out a few times.
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indeed mr tree does know his... i second the proposition to send soemone back out for more samples. if nothing else, it will continue this crappy thread.
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It starts with an owl pellet here and there, next thing you know you have the wash basin on tea day full and soaking.
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