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Old 02-04-2021, 07:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Pretend for a second that this bill passes, and that the law somehow gets enforced.

This would have a significant impact on hunting success. Yes, we are going to get people on here that run cameras that will say, ďban them, it wonít change anything.Ē But they wouldnít run cameras if it didnít work. And they wouldnít run a dozen cameras if it didnít work. And they wouldnít run 100+ cameras if they didnít work. If cameras have to be gone by 7/1 and 8/1, youíll see less people setting them up in the first place. But it is going to be very difficult to enforce.

I wish we didnít need something like this. Iíd honestly rather just that people could put a couple cameras up if they wanted to and go about their business. That said, itís getting out of hand how theyíre being used. Itís that old adage that we have met the enemy and he is us. We shoot ourselves in the foot on this stuff too often.
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Old 02-04-2021, 08:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The title of this thread articulates this perfect. It was bound to happen. Can't say I am wholly for or against it. I know a lot of hunters are for something like this, it isn't the anti or non-hunters who are (although some probably are). Casey Snider is an avid hunter himself.
More and more states are going to move this direction. It has gotten out of hand and to a point where many states are going to start regulating cameras and bait because it is what a lot of constituents want.
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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1. Casey snider can suck it.

2. Jokes on him. Iíll just set my stand 60 yards from my bait pile, 10 yards further than his 50 yard baited area definition and Iíll be completely legal.

3. I lost the keys to all my trail cam lock boxes. Cant get into them to remove them and itís illegal for me to cut down the tree they are on to get them removed before his season closure. My bad. what a bunch of Fbags
Moose, you need to re-read the law. It seams pretty iron clad to me. First, you can't bait during prescribed times and you can't take animals that are traveling to or from a baited area.

Why must some people always look for some "loophole" in a law just so they can try and gain some advantage? It is thinking like this and actions by people of this mind set that make it necessary to pass laws in the first place. Laws are generally passed to make certain people act properly in society.

Take for example your thinking on the cameras. So, you lost the keys to the lock boxes, so I guess it's OK to just leave up the cameras...I can just imagine what the judge would say..."well geez, go ahead and leave 'em up then, sounds fair to me". If I park my car right in front of your driveway and I loose the keys, is it OK to just leave it there for ever?? Come on man, think.

Course, I know this is probably just the troll coming out in you as are many of your posts...well, it worked.
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Those poor insta-famous hunters, how are they going to keep their followers without posting the "giant," "stud," or "monster" they have hitting their baits?!?

Honestly, I like the bill! Imagine if it included a provision that any camera found during the banned timeframe could be removed by any individual . . .
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Old 02-04-2021, 09:53 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Imagine if it included a provision that any camera found during the banned timeframe could be removed by any individual . . .
I've said this before, but this is the only way this type of law could be enforceable. Put in the law that any camera left in the field after said dates is legally deemed abandoned property. The only way this gets policed is by other hunters.

Losing all your cameras seems like a good incentive to follow the law. You know, the carrot and the stick?
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I like this proposed law. This is going to level the playing field so to speak and I think will increase opportunity which is a great thing. Anyone who claims this law is government overreach or 'takin away our rights' is full of baloney! Hunting equipment has always had legal limitations, this is a reaction to modern 'advances' to maintain the ideals of fair chase or at least how we decide to define it.

Let's not get caught up in the slippery slope fallacy--take this for what it is but don't straw man the arguments for or against
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What is the difference between a trail cam left on public property versus an old pop can or water bottle that someone left on the same public property?
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Old 02-04-2021, 10:49 AM   #18 (permalink)
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What is the difference between a trail cam left on public property versus an old pop can or water bottle that someone left on the same public property?
Nothing! They all need to be packed out! And take your pop-up tent blind with you!

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Moose, you need to re-read the law. It seams pretty iron clad to me. First, you can't bait during prescribed times and you can't take animals that are traveling to or from a baited area.

Why must some people always look for some "loophole" in a law just so they can try and gain some advantage? It is thinking like this and actions by people of this mind set that make it necessary to pass laws in the first place. Laws are generally passed to make certain people act properly in society.

Take for example your thinking on the cameras. So, you lost the keys to the lock boxes, so I guess it's OK to just leave up the cameras...I can just imagine what the judge would say..."well geez, go ahead and leave 'em up then, sounds fair to me". If I park my car right in front of your driveway and I loose the keys, is it OK to just leave it there for ever?? Come on man, think.

Course, I know this is probably just the troll coming out in you as are many of your posts...well, it worked.
way to tell the boomer, i think i need to take re-trolling lessons from you

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Old 02-04-2021, 04:48 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Like this is a normal??? outlaw the DAMNED things!
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