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Old 09-10-2020, 06:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Don't worry, he slings insults at old members also.

But I tend to agree with him.

As for the migration it may start tonight and be done by tomorrow morning all done in the dark. I've seen deer travel more than 15 miles overnight when they decided that it's time to go.

But I'll also say that your best go to person would be the area biologist. But this is a bad time to be calling them with all the seasons ramping up, they might get back to you after the hunt
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Old 09-10-2020, 07:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey kswenso2, My questions I had for you were sincere and I was hoping to get more info. to better help you.

As per your question, many of the deer summering above the red cliffs will start to move south in late Sept. and will mostly be off the tops by mid-Oct. Some deer will transition in Oct. and early Nov. in the middle zone in between the red and white cliffs. While others will continue South past the white cliffs. During the early rifle, I'm sure you can find a lot of sign from deer heading South along the Northfork road.



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Hey kswenso2, My questions I had for you were sincere and I was hoping to get more info. to better help you.

As per your question, many of the deer summering above the red cliffs will start to move south in late Sept. and will mostly be off the tops by mid-Oct. Some deer will transition in Oct. and early Nov. in the middle zone in between the red and white cliffs. While others will continue South past the white cliffs. During the early rifle, I'm sure you can find a lot of sign from deer heading South along the Northfork road.



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Thanks! To answer your question better, I haven' hunted this unit before. I've been scouting online for four months and have made a couple trips down there over the summer to look at accessibility.

My biggest concern was access to public land, especially along the migration route. Do you know by chance where the migration ends in this unit? At what point does the herd stop moving and settle for the winter?

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Thanks! To answer your question better, I haven' hunted this unit before. I've been scouting online for four months and have made a couple trips down there over the summer to look at accessibility.

My biggest concern was access to public land, especially along the migration route. Do you know by chance where the migration ends in this unit? At what point does the herd stop moving and settle for the winter?

Thanks again
Arizona. Be prepared for tag soup or shoot the first legal buck you see. I've hunted about a dozen of the 30 sub units and Zion has to be one of the toughest.
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My biggest concern was access to public land, especially along the migration route. Do you know by chance where the migration ends in this unit? At what point does the herd stop moving and settle for the winter?

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It's not where the herd stops that you need to worry about, but rather where the unit boundary ends. As was mentioned previously, Arizona.


I feel for these guys that draw the Zion October deer hunts. They get these tags expecting to hunt "up on the mountain" only to find that the deer are gone, and that most of the unit "up on the mountain" is private, and what little public is covered with other hunters.
So much for all that summer scouting.


My recommendation to you: forget the mountain. Head south. Focus between highway 9, Zion, highway 89 and the Arizona border. Yep, that's a big area, but that's where the deer go. Expect to find some other hunters in the area too.
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It's not where the herd stops that you need to worry about, but rather where the unit boundary ends. As was mentioned previously, Arizona.


I feel for these guys that draw the Zion October deer hunts. They get these tags expecting to hunt "up on the mountain" only to find that the deer are gone, and that most of the unit "up on the mountain" is private, and what little public is covered with other hunters.
So much for all that summer scouting.


My recommendation to you: forget the mountain. Head south. Focus between highway 9, Zion, highway 89 and the Arizona border. Yep, that's a big area, but that's where the deer go. Expect to find some other hunters in the area too.
That's a great recommendation. That seems to be a possible holding area in the migration for some deer. Last year, visiting the area in mid February, I saw dozens of deer right off of highway 9 between Zion and Mount Carmel. That is what got me wondering what area the deer finish their migration in. According to the DWR, the deer population in the unit is 19,000. Maybe some of the deer just winter right at highway 9, while others finish the migration in Arizona?
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Arizona. Be prepared for tag soup or shoot the first legal buck you see. I've hunted about a dozen of the 30 sub units and Zion has to be one of the toughest.
Did you hunt the early or regular rifle season?
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don't forget about the deer that summer in Arizona. They migrate north to Utah.






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Arizona. Be prepared for tag soup or shoot the first legal buck you see. I've hunted about a dozen of the 30 sub units and Zion has to be one of the toughest.

Well....that just depends. If you wait until the end of the general rifle deer hunt, then hunting out on the Sands is easy, and tag soup can be exchanged for buck meat.

Zion isn't an easy unit for people that hunt public land. That's the issue. But for there is some really good opportunity for people that don't necessarily want to hunt up on the mountain. There are bucks out there on the Sands early, and it's some great country. It's just not for everyone. As the hunt progress, more and more deer start showing up -- the later it gets, the more deer you have out there.
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Well....that just depends. If you wait until the end of the general rifle deer hunt, then hunting out on the Sands is easy, and tag soup can be exchanged for buck meat.

Zion isn't an easy unit for people that hunt public land. That's the issue. But for there is some really good opportunity for people that don't necessarily want to hunt up on the mountain. There are bucks out there on the Sands early, and it's some great country. It's just not for everyone. As the hunt progress, more and more deer start showing up -- the later it gets, the more deer you have out there.

He's talking about the early rifle.

Also, if you like hunting the cedars, then South of highway 9 can be good. I hate the cedars, almost as bad as the oakbrush jungles.
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