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Old 09-10-2020, 10:31 AM   #21 (permalink)
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There are no elk on the wasatch, can confirm
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Old 09-11-2020, 05:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TPrawitt91 View Post
There are no elk on the wasatch, can confirm
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Old 09-11-2020, 10:02 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Packout View Post
This is an interesting topic. I like to look at numbers so a quick break down is that:
-Archery overall success rate is around 12-15% (includes antlerless)
-Archers shoot between 650-750 antlerless elk a year.
-Archery harvest ratio is approx 50/50 - bulls to antlerless
-Many spike units have a ratio of 2 or so antlerless killed for every spike bull killed. (While Any Bull units have a 3 or 4 bulls to 1 antlerless kill rate)
-Antlerless draw hunt success usually hovers in the 50% range.

So if the UDWR wanted to kill those 700 antlerless elk thru antlerless draw opportunities they could issue approx 1,400 more antlerless elk tags. Which is a 15-20% increase in draw permits each year.

But doing that would decrease archery success rates by half to about 6-7% success.

So yes- archers do impact the herds and they do impact the number of antlerless draw permits which are available. But is that a problem worthy of revamping the system and reducing archery success rates to mid single digits?
But Archery Elk tags are unlimited so I'll see your 1,400 tags and raise you however many tags Utah hunters with a bow want to buy.

(Nice work on the data though )
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Old 09-11-2020, 10:05 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I think what Packout is saying is that on average, unlimited archery tags contribute 650-750 dead cows at the end of the season. This is regardless of how many tags are actually sold. While there may be blips here and there over the years, the average is what it is over time.
Just remember...it's hunting NOT killing. Big difference!
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