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Old 07-23-2020, 10:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Geeeee I was just asking a simple question. I know it could plug the system now, but I also look at the folks sitting on points in the 10-15 range area. Theoretically, it could push however many hunters in that point group completely out of the system to never return again. Sacrifice one year of odds going to he!! (like it is now) to better your odds in the following year.

Maybe a one time deal and that's it. Kinda like rolling the dice with all the money on one number. Hit it big, or, loose it all.

I'm not proposing that it happens but was curious what the thoughts would be. (I see I've poked the bear)

On another thought to eliminate unit jumpers...…….. Your points when applying, stay in the Unit you apply for. You cant transfer points to another unit to better your odds of drawing.

I know this is pissing some folks off but just brain storming out loud.
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Old 07-23-2020, 10:40 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Dock taxidermist 500 points for that idea lol.


I think we should abolish the points system. Make it a generational system sounds bleeping awful. Lets just allow the sale of them while we are at it.
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Old 07-23-2020, 10:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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On another thought to eliminate unit jumpers...…….. Your points when applying, stay in the Unit you apply for. You cant transfer points to another unit to better your odds of drawing.

I know this is pissing some folks off but just brain storming out loud.
What are you even trying to solve with these though?

People get "stuck" in a OIAL line right now. Why on earth would we stick someone to a unit? Especially over a 15-20 year wait - stuff changes. That makes the already terrible line waiting- worse.


Maybe we would be less grumpy if we knew what you are brainstorming? There is no solution to point creep unless the amount of animals suddenly is 10x what it is or half the people die all at once.



The only real solution is a Random Draw
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Old 07-23-2020, 10:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
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He!! NO...….


Not mad, just don't like the idea of transferring points.
Eliminating point jumpers would help me because I have one unit I want, or no unit. Just don't think it would pass.

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Old 07-23-2020, 10:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I got to thinking about the points that some of our "Elder" hunters have and are likely to never draw that tag (OIL, LE) and if the DWR offered a transfer of those points to another (younger) hunter in order to move the point creep to an advantage of incoming first time applicants.
Grandson 1: "I'm going to miss grandpa now that he's gone. At least he left me the cabin in his will."
Grandson 2: "Sucks to be you...he willed me his bonus and preference points! Haha!"
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I'd like to see the Utah DWR go to one point system for each animal. No more buck and doe points or bull and cow points, just elk, deer, antelope, moose, or whatever points.

If you want to spend a dozen points on a cow or a doe hunt then so be it.

This will get people through the system faster than any other idea that I have seen.

It will never happen but I'd like to see it.
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:44 AM   #17 (permalink)
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What are you even trying to solve with these though?


Preparing us all for what it could be like in the years to come. With more applicants, population growth, less habitat = less animals = less tags = larger point creep and agitated sportsman/women.


I know this topic is a hair brain, sh!t for brains, stupid, dumb, you name it idea, but I honestly believe its not far off when its going to take 30 points to draw a OIL, LE tag. Probably 5 points for a deer tag and 10 points for a cow elk tag.


RandomElk, thanks for the points! I'll put them to good use
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Old 07-23-2020, 11:50 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I will firmly agree with everyone else that the answer to the original question is bleep no, for the listed reasons. I will submit one more reason. Family unity.

Can you imagine the intrafamily fight that will take place for who gets dearly departed grandpas high number of OIL and/or LE points? Some of those squabbles would end up in those "true crime" shows on network TV.
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Brainstorm solutions, not more problems
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Old 07-23-2020, 12:04 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'd like to see the Utah DWR go to one point system for each animal. No more buck and doe points or bull and cow points, just elk, deer, antelope, moose, or whatever points.

If you want to spend a dozen points on a cow or a doe hunt then so be it.

This will get people through the system faster than any other idea that I have seen.

It will never happen but I'd like to see it.
Everyone wants to rob opportunity huh?

So while I wait 20 years for a bull hunt - I can't hunt a cow or anybull?


Makes zero sense. Want to hunt LE deer? You can never hunt a general unit again.
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