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Old 07-08-2020, 11:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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So my whole thought on taking the spike has little to do with it being a better trophy except to say that forcing myself to take a spike forces me to select a particular animal as opposed to the first legal brown object that bumps into me. Other than that I don't think a spike is any tougher than a cow or a cow is any tougher than a rut crazed bull.

That in mind, I think I'd rather take a cow spot and stalk than wait out a spike on a waterhole.
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For my 2 cents worth, shoot what you are happy with. I have a friend who claims that he has never shot a cow elk and never will, but he has shot a lot of doe deer.

As for eating quality, the worst eating elk I have ever shot was a yearling cow, she was pure rank and tough. The toughest elk I have shot was a old cow, eating her was like chewing on shoe leather with some salt and pepper. My last bull is a close second to that old cow but then he was very old and didn't have any molars left. Even his ivories were 1/4 of the size that they should of been.

The best elk that I have ate was my bull out of the Book Cliffs that I shot in the rut, there wasn't a bad piece of meat on him.

I've always said that you have no idea of how the meat is going to taste until you get it into the frying pan and try it.... no matter what it is, cow, calf, bull, buck or doe...
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Old 07-08-2020, 04:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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that's funny. sometimes i settle for a spike. the rest of the time i take home my trophy cow.
Interesting. I've always followed the belief that the younger animals are better eating. Combine that with the macho status of killing a male and I think my preference has always been to try to kill a spike.

I've killed a lot of cows - and never once had a bad one.

just curious as to your preference? population control?
I like the meat and smaller size since I pack it out solo. Also, who needs a testicle attached to their meat on the way home. I'll take a nipple any day.

I'm also unencumbered by pride in size of the rack. They're cool to look at but I just don't feel like it benefits me to hunt for one.

To each their own. That just leaves more cow tags for me.
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Elk oysters yum

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I like the meat and smaller size since I pack it out solo. Also, who needs a testicle attached to their meat on the way home. I'll take a nipple any day.

I'm also unencumbered by pride in size of the rack. They're cool to look at but I just don't feel like it benefits me to hunt for one.

To each their own. That just leaves more cow tags for me.
If it's hunter's choice (either sex) why do you need proof...?
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Don't tell the cops but I've never left proof of sex attached...

Even in the guidebook bucks are identified by the presence of antlers, not genitalia. For elk they are antlerless hunts, again only identified by the presence of antlers or not.

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If it's hunter's choice (either sex) why do you need proof...?
i've always been told by the co's to do it regardless of the tag.
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Don't tell the cops but I've never left proof of sex attached...

Even in the guidebook bucks are identified by the presence of antlers, not genitalia. For elk they are antlerless hunts, again only identified by the presence of antlers or not.

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You must obey the following rules to
transport big game in Utah:
•The head or sex organs of the animal
you’ve taken must remain attached to
the largest portion of its carcass.
•If you take an elk on a spike bull unit,
the antlers must remain attached to
the animal’s skull plate, and you must
transport the skull plate and antlers with
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Old 07-09-2020, 07:26 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Packing out an entire spike head is not worth the pain. I have always just left the sex organ and cut off the skull plate.

Unless you plan on a mount it is just not worth it to me. But I also bone them out on the hill. I don't like packing bone.
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Old 07-09-2020, 07:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
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APD -- I think most spike hunters just take the head out with them. That's what we do. We de-bone the carcass, and carry only the meat + head (largest portion of carcass) out. They make nice yard decorations. No CO has ever told me to do anything different.

For a cow, like you, we take a nipple.
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