Funny Story

[lost510]

Hah, somebody calling you out on a post count. I guess you don't know a thing about fly fishing until you have at least 5,000 posts on various forums. Who am I to judge some obnoxious sportsman, after all he has several thousand more posts than me. I've fished plenty of rivers that enforce pool rotation, to prevent just these kinds of situations. After all, its not "your pool", and somebody else might like to enjoy it. Maybe look at all the issues with HB80 right now, if you went by this same mentality of it being "your pool", than wouldn't all the land owners and farmers claiming its "their stretch of river" be right? Wouldn't it kinda suck if you couldn't fish some of your favorite spots on the weber or provo cause somebody had already claimed "your pool"?

[Packfish]

Boy did this thread go in another direction--- all fishing- all everything should have a code of ethics of sorts- it's just common decency to your fellow man but I have a feeling if someone somewhere told me it was time to rotate - we'd have a discussion on that subject.

[orvis1]

Hah, somebody calling you out on a post count. I guess you don't know a thing about fly fishing until you have at least 5,000 posts on various forums. Who am I to judge some obnoxious sportsman, after all he has several thousand more posts than me. I've fished plenty of rivers that enforce pool rotation, to prevent just these kinds of situations. After all, its not "your pool", and somebody else might like to enjoy it. Maybe look at all the issues with HB80 right now, if you went by this same mentality of it being "your pool", than wouldn't all the land owners and farmers claiming its "their stretch of river" be right? Wouldn't it kinda suck if you couldn't fish some of your favorite spots on the weber or provo cause somebody had already claimed "your pool"?

You typed in the wrong URL http://www.utahonthefly.com is what you are looking for. You will find plenty of people willing to argue with you with you there, and many fly fisherman much more talented than myself (not that it is saying much). Thought I was sharing a humorous story but there are always a few that just don't get it.

[STEVO]

Pool Rotation???? If a guy ever approached me on the river about that ... he just might get **** . Common sense would tell the average person that if somebody is fishing in "your hole" then go 100 yards up river and find another. Its not like good holes on the green are that hard to come by. Even the average "baitchucker" like me has more common sense than that!!!!

Mabey this is a stupid question (like I said im a baitchucker), but what rivers enforce "pool rotation"? Seems to me that if you want a certain hole you better get **** of bed before everybody else and get there.

[sinergy]

I got a good laugh out of it .. Must be the cold weather making everyone grumpy

[bigboybdub]

Hey orvis don't feel at all bad at what you did and said to this guy Clark I for one am happy for you and glad that you posted the story for all to see I laugh every time I Just see the title

I am glad you called him out on pushing his way into your hole cause now hopefully he will think twice about squeezing in on someone else's hole and the next person may not be as nice about it who knows and I would have pretty much the same thing as you did

[Huge29]

I think I would have hiked at least a mile upstream to get away from both groups.

While it does sound funny on both accounts, FWIW it is worth I must agree with Scotty, nasty drunks are far more offensive to me than hole crowders; although both seriously annoy me.

[lost510]

Orvis, I'm sorry, your story was kind of funny, and those guys did sound like pro DB's. That UTOF comment put me in my place and made me re-examine how I worded that. And obviously this is one of the longest ongoing arguments in fishing, how to handle somebody encroaching on where your line is going. If I see somebody watch me fish an area for an hour without getting pushy, I usually offer them the spot, in exchange for a few flies of course. I know i've certainly been on the other end of it, and know how frustrating it can be. And I really hope HB80 passes so that your story doesn't become the norm on Utahs waters.

Steve-O, the rivers that I fished with pool rotation were in Canada a bit north of Maine where I grew up. These are Atlantic salmon waters with limited access, and small stretches of fishable water. Obviously due to the fact that they are AS waters, the fish can be somewhat limited too. I was absolutely F'in **** off at the pool rotation and took your approach with it when I was younger. After some more experience, I realized that system actual worked quite well, and almost guaranteed that you would get to fish at least a couple of your favorite spots. It just seemed to improve overall attitude and interactions between anglers. You still needed to get there early to have a chance of catching anything.

[STEVO]

I think I would have hiked at least a mile upstream to get away from both groups.

While it does sound funny on both accounts, FWIW it is worth I must agree with Scotty, nasty drunks are far more offensive to me than hole crowders; although both seriously annoy me.

Let me guess....... a drunk flyfisherman threw beer all over your family last year? j/k

I think people assume that other people go into the wild for the same reasons they do. I dont see any problems with somebody going out and having a good time (drunk or not). Simple, if you dont like what somebody else is doing, then move on. Back in the day we used to go up to strawberry , Pull the truck down on the shore, turn the music up(not too loud) and drink some beer. Without fail EVERY trip we would have people come over and tell us how annoying it is hearing music and how they come up there to get away from "noise" and how offended they are that we were drinking. These were people that showed up well after we did and decide they want to fish 20 yards from us. CMONE people you have the whole damn lake or river to fish.

Lost510,

I have heard how crazy the rivers in Canada and Alaska can get when the salmon are running. I can see it to a point in that case where it would be good to rotate to eliminate alot of problems, But I have been on the Green in the peak season and I have NEVER seen it so busy that you cant find a hole of some sort to fish up there. If I am fishing and my fly can hit you.... IT WILL HIT YOU

[Huge29]

I think people assume that other people go into the wild for the same reasons they do. I dont see any problems with somebody going out and having a good time (drunk or not). Simple, if you dont like what somebody else is doing, then move on. Back in the day we used to go up to strawberry , Pull the truck down on the shore, turn the music up(not too loud) and drink some beer. Without fail EVERY trip we would have people come over and tell us how annoying it is hearing music and how they come up there to get away from "noise" and how offended they are that we were drinking. These were people that showed up well after we did and decide they want to fish 20 yards from us. CMONE people you have the whole damn lake or river to fish.

If they heard the music it is too loud, stay home and blast out the whole hood! Why go that far just to do that? I don't care about drunks making arses of themselves, it is quite comical IMHO. However, nasty drunks like the one Orvis described is annoying to everyone except the drunk and his usually drunk buddy and is commonly known as public intoxication after which he drives home illegally placing himself and every other person in danger; now that is beyond annoying, but stupid and very irresponsible. if you want to quietly drink your booze knock yourself out! However, don't ruin the tranquility of nature for everyone due to your inconsideration for others with your blasting music and pie hole, that is all! There are people that can be just as annoying w/o booze, same words for them.