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HB 141

Postby stupiddog » Mar 09, '10, 9:26

Just FYI we lost HB 141 today. This is bad news for fisherman. Contact the governers office and tell him not to sign this quick. Speccles@utah.gov
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Re: HB 141

Postby Guns and Flies » Mar 09, '10, 10:02

What a tragedy! Who are those people representing?
In one way or another, all of us are in need of change.
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Re: HB 141

Postby Catherder » Mar 09, '10, 10:40

A sad day indeed. It will now be on to the courts.


In spite of the outcome, thanks to all of you that helped fight this misguided legislation in whatever way you could.
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Re: HB 141

Postby cane2477 » Mar 10, '10, 12:00

Are you sure? According to utah.gov, this bill is being substituted and has not been voted on. Can anyone else confirm a vote has indeed been taken?


http://le.utah.gov/~2010/status/hbillsta/hb0141s01.htm
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Re: HB 141

Postby Troll » Mar 10, '10, 12:15

cane2477 wrote:Are you sure? According to utah.gov, this bill is being substituted and has not been voted on. Can anyone else confirm a vote has indeed been taken?


http://le.utah.gov/~2010/status/hbillsta/hb0141s01.htm


http://www.sltrib.com/utahpolitics/ci_14641999

Don't believe the government, or their website.
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Re: HB 141

Postby lunkerhunter2 » Mar 10, '10, 3:26

What a joke. I guess we will find out if the UT Supreme Court is bought out too huh? I hope they are not and they get royally **** and throw this back in the legislatures and governors face and hold them all in contempt and sentence them to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: F*%^$)# IDIOTS!
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Re: HB 141

Postby pkred » Mar 10, '10, 3:29

+1
"Politics is the will of the people corrupted by the greed of the individual"
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Re: HB 141

Postby lunkerhunter2 » Mar 10, '10, 6:08

I just sent Gov. Herbert an e-mail. I encourage everyone to send him one and tell him not to sign the bill into law!
http://governor.utah.gov/goca/form_comment.html
Here is his feedback page.
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Re: HB 141

Postby lehi » Mar 10, '10, 6:40

I already sent an e mail to my senator, kinda bitched him out for voting for it. Told him I would do all I can to make sure people wouldn't vote for him come election time. :twisted:

Ill give Mr. Herbert a try too.
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Re: HB 141

Postby loveswildlife » Mar 11, '10, 4:54

Fellas,

I love the outdoors as much as anyone, but I think the landowners have significant number of legitimate reasons for pushing for this. When each of you can, let me know how you would argue against these:

1. If the water is public, then what would stop my neighbor from coming into my backyard uninvited and swiming in my pool, or using my toilet in my house? I spent the money on my home and yard, and I don't want anyone to be there that I don't choose to be. I see where they are coming from on this.

2. If the water is public owned, then isn't the dirt and every other natural resource, so how do we protect our homes and property from others, including the government deciding who can and cannot be on there.

3. Do we pay property taxes on the property we wish to fish on? Landowners do.

4. I have worked my whole life to buy my small chunk of land, very small, but someone else that hasn't worked at it like have shouldn't have a natural right to be on it and to use it. The bottom line is that if each of us owned a lot of land and had sweet fishing on it, we wouldn't want others on it, period.

What I have found is that I have to work hard to have relationships with those who own property and I have been lucky to fish in places like that from time to time.

Thanks.
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