The Taysom Hill Enigma - Utah Wildlife Network

» Site Navigation
» Home
»
 > Search
 > FAQ
» Stats
Members: 8,510
Threads: 46,596
Posts: 474,640
Welcome to our newest member, ANewsome
Like Tree7Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-09-2013, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,912
Default The Taysom Hill Enigma

Guess who is the lowest rated passer in the entire NCAA? That's right: Taysom Hill.

Guess who is the highest rated rusher in the NCAA? Right again: Taysom Hill.

Can he make it through the season unhurt if he continues to run the ball this much?

Can BYU continue to win by running the ball without using the pass?

If BYU does pass, is the 25-30% completion ratio what Cougars fans can expect?

Your thoughts?
xxxxxxBirdDogger is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-09-2013, 08:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Riverton Utah
Posts: 764
Default

No he wont last the entire season at this pace. From here on out starting with Utah they will load up on the run and make him pass. If he continues to throw like crap BYU will not be able to beat the better teams they play.

All that said, Texas has some great D lineman and they could not stop him so what do I know?
__________________
www.Bowhuntersofutah.net
silentstalker is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-09-2013, 08:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Huge29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WX/Price
Posts: 10,548
Default

That is what blew me away about Texas and what got the DC fired, they did not force him to beat them with the pass. Better defensive teams like next week's opponent wil do so.
__________________
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln
Huge29 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 07:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 84
Default

He is Riley Nelson 2.0 and there is no way he is going to be able to stay healthy if he is trying to run it that much every game. His natural instinct is to run first, pass second and QBs that do that get injured. Once a team learns to stop the run all the praise Bronco and Taysom have been getting will quickly turn the other way and BYU fans will be calling for Bronco to be fired.

But in reality at this point nothing matters anymore. BYU already lost a game so they will be playing in the Fight Hunger Bowl. Their ambitions for a BCS busting season ended on August 31st. Welcome to independence where you don't have the chance at a conference championship game to put yourself in a BCS bowl.
trclements is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 08:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Home sweet home.
Posts: 1,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trclements View Post
Welcome to independence where you don't have the chance at a conference championship game to put yourself in a BCS bowl.
Hooey. Independence has nothing to do with not getting a chance at a BCS bowl. A conference championship in the MTN wouldn't have gotten us there either.
__________________
Disappoint the government; be responsible, self-reliant, and kind.
Dodger is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 09:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 84
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
Hooey. Independence has nothing to do with not getting a chance at a BCS bowl. A conference championship in the MTN wouldn't have gotten us there either.

I agree with you in that a MWC championship wouldn't help them anymore than independence. What I was trying to say is you need to be in a big conference that has an agreement with one of the BCS bowls to take their conference champions every year like the Pac-12 and Big-10 have with the Rose Bowl. Utah in there first year in the PAC-12 was one win over Colorado away from playing in the PAC-12 conference championship game against Oregon and would have only had a record of 8-4 going into that game. If they some how managed to upset Oregon in that game they would have gone to the Rose Bowl as 9-4 team. I get that it wasn't going to happen, but the possibility is always there. BYU doesn't have that option ever as an independent. With one loss they are stuck in the bowl game they have a contract with which is the Hunger Bowl this year. They have to have an undefeated season which is near impossible these days in any conference to get into a BCS bowl. One loss might get you in if you have an extremely difficult season and play and beat a number of teams that are ranked and stay ranked towards the end of the season.

The MWC obviously wasn't a good place for BYU to stay, but a couple years ago when the Big 12 was sniffing around they should have done everything in their power to get into that conference instead of being so worried about keeping their TV deal with ESPN that allows them to rebroadcast all their game on BYU TV. If BYU really does want to be taken serious as a consistent top 25 football program year in and year out they either need to get at least 11 wins per year or somehow find a way into a big conference.
Billy Mumphrey likes this.
trclements is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 09:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
HighNDry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,671
Default

I'm thinking that a 70 to 7 win over Weber State should propel a bottom dwelling PAC 12 team into at least a Hunger Bowl appearance too. Is it possible?
HighNDry is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 12:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Huge29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WX/Price
Posts: 10,548
Default

In related news http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...in-Kansas.html
__________________
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln
Huge29 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 12:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Huge29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WX/Price
Posts: 10,548
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HighNDry View Post
I'm thinking that a 70 to 7 win over Weber State should propel a bottom dwelling PAC 12 team into at least a Hunger Bowl appearance too. Is it possible?
Being a Texas fan, what are your thoughts on that game? Overrated or what?
__________________
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln
Huge29 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-10-2013, 12:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Home sweet home.
Posts: 1,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trclements View Post
I agree with you in that a MWC championship wouldn't help them anymore than independence. What I was trying to say is you need to be in a big conference that has an agreement with one of the BCS bowls to take their conference champions every year like the Pac-12 and Big-10 have with the Rose Bowl. Utah in there first year in the PAC-12 was one win over Colorado away from playing in the PAC-12 conference championship game against Oregon and would have only had a record of 8-4 going into that game. If they some how managed to upset Oregon in that game they would have gone to the Rose Bowl as 9-4 team. I get that it wasn't going to happen, but the possibility is always there. BYU doesn't have that option ever as an independent. With one loss they are stuck in the bowl game they have a contract with which is the Hunger Bowl this year. They have to have an undefeated season which is near impossible these days in any conference to get into a BCS bowl. One loss might get you in if you have an extremely difficult season and play and beat a number of teams that are ranked and stay ranked towards the end of the season.

The MWC obviously wasn't a good place for BYU to stay, but a couple years ago when the Big 12 was sniffing around they should have done everything in their power to get into that conference instead of being so worried about keeping their TV deal with ESPN that allows them to rebroadcast all their game on BYU TV. If BYU really does want to be taken serious as a consistent top 25 football program year in and year out they either need to get at least 11 wins per year or somehow find a way into a big conference.

That's true except I disagree that to be taken serious as a top 25 football program year in and year out we need 11 wins a season. We've been in the top 25 almost every year for the last 20 years without winning 11 games per season.

Big conferences don't want us. They don't want to deal with us not playing on Sunday. The Big 12 doesn't want us to come in and beat Texas. The PAC 12 doesn't want us to come in and beat USC/Oregon.

We've got nowhere to go, so we go alone.
__________________
Disappoint the government; be responsible, self-reliant, and kind.
Dodger is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Smilies
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Utah Wildlife Network forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hill out for the season. Comrade Duck Sports 24 10-15-2012 12:53 PM
Hill 3D Shoot Boly Archery 3 05-31-2012 01:37 PM
Shooting Up/Down Hill guapon1978 Archery 9 07-20-2011 01:58 AM
How about some Leigh Hill? BrookTroutKid Community fishing 0 11-20-2010 11:47 PM
sand hill crain swbuckmaster Upland game 7 11-08-2007 02:19 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1