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Old 04-20-2017, 03:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Due to reasons both related and unrelated to what we talk about here, I am as happy as anyone that Chaffetz is leaving. My bet is that we haven't seen the last of him and that he will run for Governor in 2020. It will be an interesting campaign as the potential "R" candidates are coming out as well with the news. It does seem like a longshot for Dr. Allen to win, but it has happened before. Remember Bill Orton? (or was it Bob?.. no Bob was the professional wrestler ) I suppose from what I've read so far, Dr. Allen would have my support at this point.

OK Paddler, here is your chance. You know the candidate personally, I don't. Tell us about her, especially what she is like beyond the usual spin all candidates will put out about themselves.
As I recall, she joined our program when I was a third year resident. I had little contact with her and don't know her well. Brian Shiozawa, now a Republican state senator from Cottonwood Heights was a year ahead of me in the FP program at the U. He's a very reasonable guy. Kathryn was fairly quiet but seemed solid. She would be a breath of fresh air, IMO. Of course, Chaffetz set the bar at a subterranean level, so any reasonable, rational non red meat person who demonstrated a shred of humility would be a major improvement. They didn't develop the Chaffetz rule at BYU for nothing. Good riddance.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So- If you want to go mountain biking and smoke M. J. in public land, you vote Dem. If you want to be able to hunt and live in a decent country, you vote Rep. If you want to live in a free country you vote Libertarian.
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Old 04-20-2017, 11:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So- If you want to go mountain biking and smoke M. J. in public land, you vote Dem. If you want to be able to hunt and live in a decent country, you vote Rep. If you want to live in a free country you vote Libertarian.


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Old 04-20-2017, 11:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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So- If you want to go mountain biking and smoke M. J. in public land, you vote Dem. If you want to only be able to dream of hunting like your dad did and live near country blocked by no trespassing signs, you vote Rep. If you want to live in a free country you vote Libertarian.
Fixed it for you.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:20 AM   #15 (permalink)
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So- If you want to go mountain biking and smoke M. J. in public land, you vote Dem. If you want to be able to hunt and live in a decent country, you vote Rep. If you want to live in a free country you vote Libertarian.

Says a teenager to an adult.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Tread lightly - what you gain in a candidate, and perhaps elected representative, will require you give something else up. All of mine fight the federal transfer of lands, but we get sucker punched elsewhere - mostly economically.

Tit for tat is the crux to politics...

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Old 04-21-2017, 10:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Tread lightly - what you gain in a candidate, and perhaps elected representative, will require you give something else up. All of mine fight the federal transfer of lands, but we get sucker punched elsewhere - mostly economically.

Tit of tat is the crux to politics...
That's a curious statement. Can you explain it?
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So- If you want to go mountain biking and smoke M. J. in public land, you vote Dem. If you want to be able to hunt and live in a decent country, you vote Rep. If you want to live in a free country you vote Libertarian.
Two posts, one nonsensical. Not a great start.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:10 AM   #19 (permalink)
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That's a curious statement. Can you explain it?
Normally the politicians in favor of federal control of land are Democrats, not Republicans as we have all seen throughout this entire debacle.

So, if you elect the one in favor of federal control of land - let's say a Democrat - what will you have to give the Democrat party in return...?
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Normally the politicians in favor of federal control of land are Democrats, not Republicans as we have all seen throughout this entire debacle.

So, if you elect the one in favor of federal control of land - let's say a Democrat - what will you have to give the Democrat party in return...?
I see what your saying so here you go.
If you elect a dem you will feel like you are securing your public lands but you are also at the same time giving into the ideas of
Gun control
Increased welfare expansion
Increased taxation
Forward push into socialism
Increased regulation on all federal programs
Increased government spending
Increased fed deficit
Poor military policy's
Increased immigration leading into lower wages to increased poverty which leads to increased unemployment which leads to increased welfare and on and on and on
Just a few issues I have with straight line dem

I am in the center as it gets. And have a hard time supporting anyone that is far right or left.
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