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Old 04-04-2017, 10:49 AM   #21 (permalink)
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On the main topic of the thread here, I'm still very optimistic about Zinke running the DOI. This guy is an advocate for sportsmen. That does not mean that sportsmen will get everything they want along the way. That just isn't how politics (or the world) works.

But make no mistake, this is the best case scenario in this administration for this position. I truly believe that.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:53 AM   #22 (permalink)
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On the main topic of the thread here, I'm still very optimistic about Zinke running the DOI. This guy is an advocate for sportsmen. That does not mean that sportsmen will get everything they want along the way. That just isn't how politics (or the world) works.

But make no mistake, this is the best case scenario in this administration for this position. I truly believe that.
I agree with this sentiment. Given the administration Zinke is a win.

I still don't think it's a bad thing to point out when Zinke does something unfavorable, as ive done here in this thread, but given the alternatives, having a guy who is on record against land transfer and sale is a good thing.

My own vitriol should be tempered by what could have been a lose lose scenario for sportsmen should any of the other options have received the nomination.

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Old 04-04-2017, 11:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I've got no issue with anyone pointing out mis-steps. But they should also realize that it may not be Zinke or anything he can do about some of it.

I just really wanted to point out that Zinke is a win for us as sportsmen. He gets it. He is on our side.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Agreed. I am still generally optimistic about zinke. I think a certain amount of toeing the company line is to be expected from a cabinet member.

Ultimately he hasn't done anything egregious enough to cause me to think hes shifted his stance on the most important issues. Thanks for bringing things in the conversation back into perspective.

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So, Zinke has ordered a review of sage grouse protections. Still optimistic?
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So, Zinke has ordered a review of sage grouse protections. Still optimistic?
Absolutely!!!!
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Not at all, how about we leave something settled that took years of work, effort , and collaboration rather than play politics and rehash the entire process and plan depending on what type of politics are being played from year to year.
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So, Zinke has ordered a review of sage grouse protections. Still optimistic?
Nope.

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Old 06-08-2017, 06:20 PM   #29 (permalink)
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If they did go extinct what's the downside? Guilt?

We saved Bald Eagles, Whooping Cranes, California Condors, Grizzlies and several other species. Can't we lose one and move on?
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If they did go extinct what's the downside? Guilt?

We saved Bald Eagles, Whooping Cranes, California Condors, Grizzlies and several other species. Can't we lose one and move on?

I'm glad most sportsmen don't share your mindset.

Ive never hunted sage grouse and may not ever in the future, but I'm glad they are on the landscape. Nevermind the implications for other species many of us are passionate about pursuing.

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