My family chooses to hunt in a unit that is not too popular. This should work out great for us since I'm certain some years where somebody in our party did not drawn were because another hunter put it as a back up and had more points than us.
should be an interesting few years as people decide how to play their points and figure out a new way to get ahead. might be a lot of left over tags this season.
No. My prediction is we continue with a massive winter kill. The only people getting tags this coming year are the ones using the loophole, as of course, they have the most points right now. It will clear out most of the max point holders then the next year things should even out as those that don't get a tag this year have more points going into the following years draw (as it should be).
It seems like we are on a trajectory that is going to minimally, result in 50% less tags than last year. One couldnt plan a worse winter for our wildlife as we have currently.
I've hunted a crappy area in the Box Elder unit just to spend time with my dad. Does this mean when I draw for it this year (my whole family draws every year) I'll lose my points? 5 points to shoot at spikes?
Our winter is going to have to get severely worse than it has been to this point to have a 50% reduction in deer tags next year. Let's hope that DallanC's prediction does not come true. That would be catastrophic.
That does seem like a high number. I don't know why, but with as few of people that were allegedly utilizing the loophole, I'd expect that number to be lower.
The interesting number will be how many people have 1 or more points at this time next year!
The abusers are people with max points averaging down to keep from drawing, thus retaining their points. just because someone has a point or two doesn't mean they were exploiting the system.
Say there is a 10 k reduction in tags overall and then take out 18% youth , then take out landowner and lifetime licenses . You may be left with only 50 k tags in the draw. The accumulation of points may continue, because of the limited availability of the resource and the different standards in allocating the tags .
We used to hunt just on the south boundaries of the panguitch unit just for that reason back in the 90's. :mrgreen:
Our group got 2 or 3 very nice bulls doing that. I never got one, but was with a friend one morning when he got a dandy 6 x 6. I helped another guy get a 350+ bull loaaded he actually caught crossing the road to the open side. Another one got a 370 bull.
Now that unit is in the toilet as far as I am concerned. Don't hunt there or the unit anymore.
For sure; need a larger bounty and 200 more tags for the Expo!!!!!! That will solve the problem that those non-existent loop hole users created.. ( I never used it for the record).......until the next one that is.......let me guess what we'll hear "It takes me three years to draw when it used to take two! The wildlife board needs to be pro-active and fix it now by instituting a single point system for Deer!". Just pure sarcasm folks but I can hardly wait for the un-intended consequences to manifest themselves in the next two to three years
I'll live with the unintended consequences ;-)
At least now everyone in Salt Lake and Utah county have a chance at drawing 17 without someone getting it with their second choice every year.
But now I don't think those Thousand Lake tags are going to get very much easier to draw even with the change.
No, You only lose your points when you draw a GE tag.
-DallanC
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