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View Poll Results: What Big Game animal in Utah is in need of the most help?
Elk 5 7.81%
Deer 55 85.94%
Moose 1 1.56%
Bison 0 0%
Bighorn sheep (both species) 1 1.56%
Mountain Goats 0 0%
Antelope 0 0%
Something else...... 2 3.13%
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've decided everyone has there opinion on the Big Game and what should be done for certain areas, when seasons should be, what should be changed, what should be changed back, what should be tried for the state or a certain area, or what you think is right and wrong. This will open a bag of worms to some extent but I would like to hear opinions.

How do you stand on Utah's Big Game management as of today? What is good, what is bad, what do you think should change, what animal needs the most work? etc....
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm pretty bummed at the decline of muskoxen in Utah.
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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how about bigfoot? man that poor animal has it rough!
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I wish they would reintroduce wolves and grizzlies....
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Wolverines!!!!


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Old 08-27-2009, 12:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Chupacabra, anyone?
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The thundering stampede of wildebeest herds have all but disappeared from the state. Even so, I'm voting to get the mastodon and woolly mammoth populations back up to where they belong the numbers still haven't bounced back from the overharvesting that took place during the last ice age.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think big game in Utah are doing fine. It's small game that are hurtin'. Big game are stepping on the small game.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Sorry to derail this 1-I. I feel responsible for hijacking this thing. So I'll attempt to get it on task with what I think your intent was.

For me, mule deer deer the most help. Or perhaps a better way of stating it, habitats that support mule deer need the most help. Really when you take out huge salt lakes, flats, desert canyons void of water and vegetation, and some of the big wide opens that make up our grand state, there really isn't as much land as we'd all probably like that is suited to mule deer. And of that, grazing, fire suppression, development, and other practices continue to squeeze the mule deer out of the picture. For big game management, I don't see the management by DWR as the limiting factor. I think they do their best to respond by balancing hunter demand to herd capacities.

To me, the place for focused attention needs to be how wildfire is managed. Suppression of all wildfires has created a monoculture that fails to provide the key things necessary to support mule deer, and other sage dependent species throughout the life cycle process. The monoculture that results from universal fire suppression, will support one aspect - perhaps fawning, perhaps cover, perhaps winter range - but not all. With fire being allowed to do its thing, a mosaic pattern of vegetation will occur, so the result is a combination of habitats that can support mule deer through all life stages.

That said, I'm not sure that is possible now. Grazing, mineral development, residential development, urban encroachment, other forms of recreation, public perceptions regarding fire, all combine to make it impossible to let wildfires burn and do their thing. Its funny - if the wolf-loving community spent as much time and resources standing up for re-introduction of wildfire into the ecosystem, as they have the reintroduction of wolves, think how much better the system would function.
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GaryFish, you brought up something that's been on my mind for the past week. I'm going off topic again-
There was a huge fire raging just east of the Book Cliffs while I was down there last week. I wondered if they would just let it burn or if they can't let fires burn out that way because of all the oil and gas lines. Who knows the answer? If fires can't burn, wouldn't that be extremely detrimental to the ecosystem in the long term?
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